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Satanic Majesties Request

Postby Quany » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:47 pm

Promo Copy Cover  

Promo Copy Label  

Hi! I hope you can help me determine a value for two Stones albums.(1) Promo copy of "England's Newest Hit Makers The Rolling Stones" on London FFrr label. The front cover has a "Promotion Copy Not for Sale" sticker affixed to it(the back cover bears the initials "yr"). The album is in perfect condition, with no visible scratches. I've owned it since 1976 but have never played it. Photos of the cover and label are attached.

(2) Original "Their Satanic Majesties Request" album on London Stereophonic label. This record has been played a few times. The album cover is pristine and the record itself has no skips or scratches. I really appreciate your assistance! ANSWER: Hello and thank you for your questions,

England's Newest Hitmakers: Thank you for the invaluable image of the disc label which answered one key question.  Often, standard-issue pressings are designated promotional simply by the sticker as seen on your cover.  However, you indeed have a true Promotion Only item which, from the images you provided and the further description you offered, places a value around $1,000.  I've seen copies in similar condition sell for no less than $800.  However, a minimum of $1,000 can easily be placed on your example based on images and description.

Their Satanic Majesties Request: For this I do have a couple of questions and even with answers, its value is less definitive.  First, whether the album cover has an 8" x 8" lenticular square paste-on at the front/center.  Second, if the disc label has an erroneous mention of 'Long Playing' in place of the standard 'Stereophonic' band.  The best-case scenario is that you have an original lenticular cover dating to the earliest pressings.  If you have a first Stereo pressing in the condition as you describe, a fair estimate would be $40-60.  Still, top condition examples may sell at well above this.  The varying estimate is the result of the item not being particularly rare but still highly desirable.  In the last year, I've seen NM/NM examples sell for as much as $85 and as little as $30.  A lesser-known but not highly contributory factor in estimating worth is whether the label is of the rarer stereo variation which features 'Long Playing' on the disc label in place of the standard 'Stereophonic' bar.  Collectors rarely make this a factor in their interest despite the label being far more rare.  Finally, if you do not have a lenticular(many people describe it as 3D) cover, then more questions will follow but the value will be less.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

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Thank you so much for your speedy and knowledgeable response! Sadly, I don't have a lenticular(who knew that's the official designation of 3D?)cover nor does the label state that is is "long playing." It appears that this album is not a collector's item. Hooray, though, for the great news about the promo copy value! I knew there was a good reason to hold onto it for so long.

ANSWER: Thank you very much for your questions, responses, and ratings.

Yes indeed, you have a really great item there which I recommend you store in archival(acid-free) material.

Now that I know you have the flat cover of Their Satanic Majesties Request, I have one final question for you.  Please look on the dead wax(the area between the disc label and grooves) for matrix information.  Please check to see that it shows 'ZAL' which would be indicative of a Stereo pressing.  If it shows 'ARL', then you may have something interesting after all.

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Thank you again for your expert opinion regarding my promo copy of "England's Newest Hit Makers." Would you mind if I troubled you again about my selling options? I've listed it on collect.com, but I'm not sure how much traffic that site experiences. After reviewing my local record store policies, I don't feel that they're likely to extend a fair offer, nor do I feel that an eBay listing would be particularly profitable. Can you suggest any other collector or auction websites I might try? Again, I appreciate your assistance!
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Satanic Majesties Request

Postby Alvin » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:37 am

A dealer or record store would likely only be interested in profit.  So no, you would not receive your best offers from either of those sources.  An auction with a fair minimum would suit you best and eBay may suit you for that purpose.  Even with a very low starting bid(which is recommended), you would likely do no better by any other means as it would no doubt receive several strong bids.  If you are concerned with getting the best offer, perhaps you should consider a listing with a buy it now price that you're willing to live with and allow offers to help prospective buyers help you to gauge interest.
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