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Proper Format For Am And Pm In Sentences

Postby Daylon » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:54 am

Hello. We're having a heated debate here at the office regarding AM and PM. It's agreed that you can use uppercase or lowercase letters with and without the periods when writing AM and PM in marketing pieces, but some people believe it's okay to leave out the space between the time and the AM or PM and some do not. For example:

Store hours: 10am to 8pm.

or

Store hours: 10 am to 8 pm.

What's your opinion on this? And would the same apply to a time used in the middle of a sentence. ie:

We're going to see a show a 4pm, so make sure you get here early. or

We're going to see a show a 4 pm, so make sure you get here early.  
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Proper Format For Am And Pm In Sentences

Postby dasco » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:02 am

Ray:

FOLLOW-UP ----

Ray, I took most of my lunch hour yesterday to research this question for you.  I did so, because you indicated that you needed the information immediately.  You were having "a heated discussion" in your office.

When you received my answer, an evaluation form was attached to it.  It takes but a few seconds to evaluate my work.  I do NOT receive any payment for helping you.  All I get as "remuneration" is your evaluation.  Your question remains in my inbox -- labeled by Allexperts as having been read, but NOT having been acknowledged with an evaluation or a "thank you."

I am asking you -- PLEASE -- to respond to the work I did for you.

Thank you for your kind consideration.

Ted Nesbitt

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Here is Rule 17d(2) from "Hodges' Harbrace Handbook," one of the best grammar and style guides ever published.  I'm using the 17th edition.

Use the colon between figures in time references.

EXAMPLE --

We are to be there by 11:30 a.m.

"The Chicago Manual of Style" is in agreement with Hodges.  Here is Rule 14.31:  The abbreviations for period of the day should not be used with "morning, noon, afternoon, evening, or night," nor should they be used with "o'clock."  

EXAMPLES --

10:45 a.m.

eight o'clock in the evening

10:45 in the morning

This manual also says, "These abbreviations are usually set in small capitals with no space added between them.  This is the common American printed style and the preference of the University of Chicago Press."

"The Associated Press Stylebook and Libel Manual" -- "Use figures except for noon and midnight.  Use a colon to separate hours from minutes:  11 a.m., 1 p.m., 3:30 p.m. [Do not add spaces between the periods following the letters.]

"The United Press International Stylebook" is almost a verbatim copy of the Associated Press Manual.  

I could find NO manual that recommends the use of capital letters [AM or A.M. or A. M.], although capitalization ONCE was used.  Current usage is always for the lower case letters with NO spaces.

Here is the recommended version of your sentence:

We're going to see a show at 4:00 p.m., so make sure you get here early.

Once again, using capital letters to indicate time of day is NO LONGER "common usage."

Ted Nesbitt
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Proper Format For Am And Pm In Sentences

Postby Mathews » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:33 pm

Hello. We're having a heated debate here at the office regarding AM and PM. It's agreed that you can use uppercase or lowercase letters with and without the periods when writing AM and PM in marketing pieces, but some people believe it's okay to leave out the space between the time and the AM or PM and some do not. For example:

Store hours: 10am to 8pm.

or

Store hours: 10 am to 8 pm.

What's your opinion on this? And would the same apply to a time used in the middle of a sentence. ie:

We're going to see a show a 4pm, so make sure you get here early. or

We're going to see a show a 4 pm, so make sure you get here early.  
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