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Isn't most the problem with Corps large ones bribing government to kill competition? So Isn't Gov the problem?

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Isn't most the problem with Corps large ones bribing government to kill competition? So Isn't Gov the problem?

Postby ingel » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:57 pm

When you look at the real problem, isn't it government allowing business to dictate a destruction of freedom of others to do business & compete? Corps alone can force you to do anything or limit your choices.

Isn't the real answer to get government out of choosing winners and losers and allow people to be the judge? To be the determining factor as to whether corps do well or die?

I mean we need government to enforce basic laws having to do with stealing or doing harm, but it seems government too often enforces measures that limit consumers rather than what their roll was meant to be, enforcing basic laws against doing harm. I mean creating laws to give one group or another advantage ... isn't that the epitome of corruption and doesn't that do the damage we are seeing in our economy right now?

I'm thinking govern, good, control, bad. What da ya think?
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Isn't most the problem with Corps large ones bribing government to kill competition? So Isn't Gov the problem?

Postby gobrwy » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:58 pm

In a civilization government controls to a certain extent are needed to make it work well. An even application of basic laws and doing the ref thing between the states, and an interstate highway system should be the Central government's only domestic authority.

Government having power to pick winners and losers is the problem. It's the only real systemic problem, and it's a huge problem that generates most problems in the economy and involving our freedoms being stepped on.

The government shouldn't be dictating choices to the people, that is not their roll constitutionally. When they get into that it's never for the good of the people, it's government looking to become powerful and control the people so they can sell the control of them to the highest bidder, and that's exactly what's been done.

The problem with the crash? Government regulations and entities caused it. The community reinvestment act, government control of fannie and freddy then putting left wing radical operatives in charge. THEY pushed the problems that have crashed the economy.

Not only that, but Government is responsible for the higher costs of medical care and insurance by working with Medical and Pharmaceutical businesses to restrict options and push expensive profitable options.

You can go down a list a mile long of how Government having the power to sell us to special interests have caused huge economic problems and limits on our freedoms ... the root of all systemic evil in civilized society, is government.
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Isn't most the problem with Corps large ones bribing government to kill competition? So Isn't Gov the problem?

Postby dickens93 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:04 pm

The control of law making bodies is the ulitmate ensurance of monopoly, which is the goal of all firms in capitalism.

The only way this wouldnt have happened would have been heavy regulation in the first place in the infancy of American capitalism.
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Isn't most the problem with Corps large ones bribing government to kill competition? So Isn't Gov the problem?

Postby gilleabart » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:16 pm

In a democracy, getting the government to do anything for the good of the people, requires the vote of the people. The lobbyists will be outlawed once the people organize and make anti-lobbyist legislation the number one agenda. If the people require every candidate for congress to promise to outlaw lobbyists and continue to vote them out until lobbying is outlawed, we will see a change. Unfortunately, it will probably never happen, but I will hold out a little hope that it will. The problem with the people is that they are not focused and organized like corporations. They don't have the organizational structure to put together a directed effort. It may come to revolution, which is how the masses eventually react when they cannot affect their government anymore.
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